Well, hello everyone, I'm James Dobson and you're listening to Family Talk, a listener-supported

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Welcome back into Family Talk. I'm Dr. Tim Clinton, co-host of the broadcast here at the

Dr. James Dobson Family Institute. If you were with us yesterday, you heard an amazing

encouraging conversation with our special guest John Smith Baker and myself. John is

back on the program today to discuss his latest book, Man Enough to Forgive. John's the

founder and president of his ministry called Fathers in the Field, which he launched in 2005.

He earned his bachelor's in business administration from the University of Arizona. His MBA from

the University of St. Thomas in Minnesota. He's the former president and CEO of Brunt and Outdoor

Group, which sells some pretty cool outdoor gear. John is married to his wife Tracy. Together,

they have three grown children. John, welcome back. Oh, thank you. I am so grateful for your guys

as hard for the Fathers and the widows in their stress. Thank you for having me on. It is a joy,

a privilege. I want to commend you guys for the kingdom work you do. Thank you. John, I wanted to

also commend you again on your new book, Man Enough to Forgive, Healing the Wounds of Fatherhood

Abandonment. John, I think it's going to be a bestseller. I really believe that. I tip my hat to

you. I know this is your heart, your passion. But I want to go, John, to a conversation I had recently

teenage boy. Why didn't my dad care about me? Why didn't he reach out to me? Yes.

I'm not doing justice to the level of emotional pain when this boy looked me straight in the eyes.

And when you don't have much words, you hear what I'm saying? It's like, hey, let me put my arms

around you. Let me carry you for a little bit here. You know that? John, it's so sad. I know I

said yesterday we all look in the stands for our dads and consider his presence. And by the way,

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