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🗓️ 21 July 2023
⏱️ 63 minutes
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BONUS: Kateri Gormley, Gomer's oldest, joins us on the show to make fun of her dad for 10 minutes.
Top Gun: Maverick which Tom Cruise used to save movie theaters, is a welcomed change of pace, but also is out of place. YouTuber Thomas Flight breaks down Modern movies (High Noon), Postmodern movies (No Country for Old Men, Pulp Fiction) and Metamodern movies (Everything, Everywhere, All at Once) to talk about this.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xEi8qg266g
Title: Why do Movies Feel So Different Now?
This video by Thomas Flight does a great job in tying together previous conversations we have had about David Foster Wallace’s talk on the usefulness of irony (1950s and 1960s America) and when it becomes a deeply disturbing problem as it becomes the norm (1980s onward). We now get what post-modern movies are trying to do because they've been doing it for decades now, only with bigger budgets and with superheroes: "Ok, I get it, you’ve subverted my expectations yet again. Wow. But only you didn’t, because I knew you would do exactly that. I saw it coming".
Gomer's example is Amazon’s newest season of the Jack Ryan series. When the selfless friend and philanthropist, the head of W.H.O., turned out to actually be an off-the-charts drug-dealing, torturing psychopath, my wife and I were like, “Yeah. Sure. Whatever.” It fell flat because it was more of the same plot-twisting nothing.
Another aspect of the rise of post-modernism and meta-modernism:
You know you're getting rich as an artist while real suffering is happening all around you and in the world, even in the lives of the people who love and watch your movies or enjoy your art. So, you draw attention to the process self-reflectively. You point out that, yeah, this is silly, but it’s fun. Maybe we can have fun together doing this. This is why there is a compulsion to stand up on stage at whatever awards ceremony and become an activist. You don't just thank your cast and crew, but must draw attention to the evils in the world around you and condemn them.
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0:11.4 | I did. Wonderful. Wonderful. And I got to introduce the Carters to Paul Swentis, so life is even better. |
0:17.3 | Yeah, yeah, that's awesome. But I have a special guest, and she's only going to join |
0:21.2 | us for a few minutes. I thought it'd be funny if I brought on the one, the only, the Tiri |
0:25.1 | Murray normally. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea. I think it's long |
0:29.2 | overdue, and I can't wait until she makes fun of you. Also, she is sitting directly next to me. |
0:34.7 | My head is ginormous compared to hers. It is. It's insane. |
0:41.3 | She is a child. She's 13. Are you a child? 13. Yes. Here we go. Okay, I'm going to transfer the headphones over to Kateri. Here we're going to do this. Kateri to do this katiri what is going on how are you |
0:57.4 | good how are you |
0:58.9 | good it has been when was the last time that we hung out |
1:02.6 | this is what he does i'm so sorry |
1:08.0 | thank you right right isn't it so tough |
1:10.8 | it's right only you and I can really |
1:13.1 | understand this. Yeah, just you and I. Yeah. Hear my. That's tough. You can't hear anything. |
1:18.9 | It's fine. Yeah. So we haven't hung out. I haven't seen you in like two years. So now you're |
1:24.6 | a teenager. How's that? It's different. It's really weird. All my friends, |
1:31.0 | well, a couple of my friends are also teenagers. So it's really funny. And all my siblings make |
1:34.6 | fun of me now because I'm a teenager. They're like, teenagers are so dumb. And I'm like, |
1:39.8 | oh, thanks, guys. I love this. He's like, thanks. I just wanted some breakfast. |
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