Hello and welcome to another episode of the City Journal podcast.

I am your host, Rafael Menguil, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and contributing editor of City Journal.

And I am so excited to be joined by two of my wonderful colleagues and friends.

We have Judge Glock, who just might have the coolest name in all of Public Policy Think

Tankland and Adam LaHoddy. Welcome to the show, gentlemen.

Thank you. Thanks so much for having me.

Well, I'm excited to talk to you guys in particular because I'm kind of using this week's

episode to air out my grievances about public policy.

And it seems like after Zohramamam Dhani's been elected, he has kind of taken the mandate

to mean that now is the time to push the envelope on the most insane ideas that he can

come up with. And two that have caught my eye that I've been dying to talk to you guys about is,

one is this idea of no longer doing homeless encampment clearances. And the other is giving

nonprofits the first right of refusal to buy

up housing. And so we'll talk about this too, but I want to start with this idea of not

clearing homeless encampments, but just like absolutely blows my mind. And Judge, this is one of the

main reasons I wanted to have you on today's show, because, I mean, this is an issue you've worked on

for a while, but it just seems to beg the question, like, who actually wants this?

You know, I've been living in New York my whole life. I've never met anyone who actually

doesn't want homeless encampments in public spaces cleared. I mean, what's the constituency

for this? Yeah, this is something that has

always baffled me a bit about this, the anti-encampment clearance crowd, because it is minuscule.

Like this is, you talk to your average citizen and they're frauding at the mouth about these things.

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