I think part of what it means to be heard is to be seen and to be valued.

When you see them and value who they are, then those little acknowledgments that you're

hearing them, they mean so much more.

But if so much of nodding and yep, yep, I hear you.

Sure thing.

Right away.

It doesn't sound like you're really hearing them, even if they're listening.

Welcome to Family Life Today, where we want to help you pursue the relationships that

matter most.

I'm Ann Wilson.

And I'm Dave Wilson and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on our Family Life app.

This is FamilyLife Today.

We've been talking this week with Hillary Ferrer.

She's the mama bear apologetics woman.

She helps us answer questions that our kids are asking about God and it's been some great

programs.

If you missed them, go on to our FamilyLife podcast network and download those and listen

to them.

But today we want to do something a little different with her and actually her husband as

well.

Yeah, it's fun because Hillary's husband, John, has come into the studio with us.

And this is a topic that's really close to my heart of what we're going to talk about

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