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🗓️ 2 December 2025
⏱️ 14 minutes
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A British broadcaster challenges a gender identity expert after sharing a story about his young son. The PBD panel reacts to the exchange, the logic breakdowns, childhood development, and the broader cultural debate about truth, biology, and parenting. A sharp look at how far the conversation has shifted.
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| 0:00.0 | This British broadcaster, okay, is having this conversation. |
| 0:05.6 | It's kind of Ben Leo, who I didn't learn about until this weekend. |
| 0:09.2 | He does a great job. |
| 0:10.7 | He's talking to a pro-trans GP. |
| 0:14.3 | And while they're going back and forth, Ben is talking about what happened with his oldest son. |
| 0:21.1 | And I want you to watch this exchange. |
| 0:23.6 | Remember, this has happened in where, Rob, this is in Britain, right? |
| 0:26.7 | GP Great Britain, UK. |
| 0:28.6 | So he is not necessarily the safest to be able to speak like this because it's pretty |
| 0:32.9 | controversial there. |
| 0:34.4 | It's very different than America and UK right now. |
| 0:36.8 | But watch how he handles this whole thing. Go ahead, Rob. Two-year-old son came up to me the other day. I went back home to the UK and he said, Daddy, I'm going to have a baby. And I said, Zach, you can't have a baby because you're a boy. You're a, you're a man. You can't have babies. And he said, well, I'm going to be a girl. I want to be a girl. What would you have said to him if you were me? Well, I wouldn't have said, Zach, you're a boy and boys can't have babies because that's absolutely not true. I mean, my, I don't know what your parenting is like. And you don't think boys can have babies? You mean males? Yes. Yes. |
| 1:11.6 | You think males can have babies? |
| 1:13.6 | Yes. |
| 1:14.6 | Right. |
| 1:15.6 | I mean, do you want to be? |
| 1:16.6 | Right. |
| 1:17.6 | Yes. |
| 1:18.6 | So, transgender males have a womb, a uterus and ovaries. |
| 1:21.6 | Jeez, man. |
| 1:22.6 | Okay, so they were born, if you like, female, but they actually identify as males. So we refer to them as males. |
| 1:29.3 | They have ovaries, a womb, a uterus, a vagina, and that means you to carry a baby. |
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