Hey, everybody, happy Sunday. No advertisers on this episode. Thanks to you. Those of you that support our show at Charliekirk.com slash support, Charliekirk.com slash support. My conversation with John MacArthur, which is from a special that we did with TBN Trinity Broadcasting Network. We talk about Romans 1. We talk about what's happening in our country and the war on children. It's mccarthy who's just terrific i think you're going to really enjoy it if you want to email me your thoughts you could do so freedom at charley kirk dot com that's freedom at charley kirk dot com if you want to support our show go to charlie kirk dot com slash support that's charley kirk dot com slash support if you want to email me. You can do so directly. Freedom at Charliekirk.com. Freedom charliekirk.com slash support. If you want to email me, you can do so directly, freedom at charleykirk.com, freedom at Charliekirk.com and get involved attorney point USA today at tpUSA.com. John McArthur is here. Buckle up. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

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His spirit, his love of this country. He's done an amazing job. Building one of the most powerful

youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA. We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to

fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

That's why we are here.

Pastor John McArthur, thank you so much for joining us.

You know, recently, it seems that YouTube labeled one of your sermons as hate speech.

Tell us about that. It was such an extraordinary move.

Well, yeah, they labeled it hate speech because I said there are only two genders, male and female.

That was essentially it. That was over the top. That was not tolerable in our culture.

I was actually surprised because I've said far more volatile things than that many, many times.

But, you know, I touched the current sacred cow. It sure seems that way. times, but, you know, I've touched the current sacred cow.

It sure seems that way. So, Pastor, you know, you gave this sermon, it was very well received,

and you mentioned that term sacred cow. It seems that the Overton window has been changing and moving

throughout the last couple years. To even say that there are only two genders, to have a video removed, it's such an extraordinary measure.

I mean, now Apple iPhones, they have emojis of pregnant men.

Just talk a little bit about in your many years of ministry how you've seen this moral decline and with it, the gender confusion that is plaguing America.

Yeah, you know, I think, Charlie, it really is what you see described in the first chapter of Romans, where the Apostle Paul talks about the wrath of God being revealed, and it's cyclical.

The way it lays out, the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all in godliness and unrighteousness of men who hold the truth in unrighteousness.

So societies have essentially a certain amount of truth regarding God and righteousness and truth in general and all of that.

But because of their desire to rebel against God, they turn away from God, they turn away from His Word.

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