podcast arts now. Hello, we are coming at you live from new york city um where we are roughly one

half hour late um which is so so first of our we're being gaslit because both of us saw major train

delays that were allegedly citywide we get here thinking oh everyone's going to be late there are major citywide train delays we here thinking, oh, everyone's going to be late.

They're a major citywide train delays.

We get here, everyone is here.

Everyone's fine.

Everyone's sitting around waiting for us.

But both of us coming from different places are both late.

Well, we were targeted.

It was an attack.

I do think, do you think it's part of Trump's tariff-related actions?

Of course. He is saying, we are doing no more in studio gay podcasting in this new era of America.

Once you silence the gay podcasters, you silence truth.

Well, I do think that's actually, there's something to that.

Because if you think about it, you know, we're sort of the bottom of the totem pole.

You start with us.

Correct.

It's kind of like starting with public universities and working our way up to Harvard.

You know, we are kind of like the test subject of all state.

Yeah.

And then, you know, next thing you know, where's Michelle Obama's podcast?

Wow.

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