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Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck and Jerry's here, too, just being quiet as a church mouse.

And this is stuff you should know.

That's because he told her to zip it.

I'm just going to leave that part out.

We're going to get hate mail for that one.

I'm surprised we're just now getting to this.

I went through a Malcolm X phase in college.

I wasn't one of those guys walking around Georgia with the Malcolm X hat on. You weren't wearing like, okay, I have a great story,

but please go ahead. I was, it was after I saw the movie because I was a big, you still am,

a big Spike Lee guy, so I saw the movie in 92 and then read

the autobiography with Alex Haley right after that. Yeah. And was just super into his story at the time.

It's been a while, though. Well, I have just entered my Malcolm X face. Awesome. I,

just researching him, I accidentally got radicalized.

And I've got his autobiography on the way it should get here today.

Oh, great.

But it's crazy, Chuck, because, like, especially as just white people of our generation,

if you hadn't already gotten into him and, like, seen the Spikely movie and read his autobiography and just started to read his speeches and stuff, if you just kind of knew him, like I had up to this point, like you knew him as the guy who said like by any means necessary, that he was, he was militant, that he was essentially the foil to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

And that he and King kind of represented these two, this fork in the road that America had to kind of choose between.

Because at this point in like the 50s starting in the 50s

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