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Arts & Ideas

Malcolm X, life changes and flexible thinking

Arts & Ideas

BBC

Society & Culture

4.2598 Ratings

🗓️ 21 February 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Matthew Sweet and guests discuss changing course in life, flexible thinking and keeping an open mind with writer and curator Ekow Eshun, philosopher Sophie Grace Chappell, journalist Stephen Bush, author Timandra Harkness & philosopher Richard Bett

Producer: Lisa Jenkinson

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And then enjoy even more podcasts full of analysis and reaction to the big stories.

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The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession.

0:25.2

And she's had to live with that.

0:26.8

So if you love sport, a passion, it's almost like a religion.

0:29.7

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Hello, this is the Arts and Ideas podcast with me, Matthew Sweet.

0:43.0

I would do anything for love, saying Meatloaf, but I wouldn't do that.

0:47.9

Which leads us to a paradox. Some of the things he says he will do sound entirely impossible, morally or

0:55.3

theologically dubious even. Can you build an emerald city with these grains of sand?

1:01.3

He's asked, I can, says Meatloaf. Will you hose me down with holy water if I get too hot?

1:08.0

This too he will do. But it's in his refusals that the measure of his love lies.

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