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Reliable Sources

Malcolm Turnbull, the former Australian prime minister, on the Murdochs and the 'market for crazy'

Reliable Sources

CNN

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3.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2021

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

This bonus podcast episode contains Brian Stelter's entire interview with former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull. They discuss the international influence of Rupert Murdoch's media empire; the impact of Murdoch's climate denialism; the growing family divide between brothers Lachlan and James Murdoch; Fox's "imitators in the right wing media ecosystem;" and more. Turnbull says Rupert "has to take responsibility for what he has done." To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Now, for a bonus edition of the Reliable Sources podcast, why does a former world leader,

0:08.7

who is known Rupert Murdoch for decades, say that the Murdoch media empire has had a devastating

0:15.4

impact on democracy.

0:18.5

That's one of the questions that we're getting into here.

0:20.8

It's a bonus episode, so let's cue the music.

0:24.6

I'm Brian Stelter, and as you probably know, this is our podcast edition of Reliable

0:29.7

Sources.

0:31.2

We wanted to share with you my recent interview with former Australian Prime Minister Malcolm

0:37.4

Turnbull.

0:39.2

You may have seen a few minutes of this interview on television, on our CNN TV edition of Reliable

0:45.9

Sources, but Turnbull had so much more to say, and so we thought we would share the

0:51.5

full interview with you here on the pod.

0:55.6

Turnbull ripped into Rupert Murdoch recently at a parliamentary proceeding in Australia.

1:02.1

He has been outspoken about what he believes is the damage to democracy that Fox News and

1:09.3

Murdoch's newspapers are doing in the US, the UK, and his beloved Australia.

1:16.5

It is rather rare to hear someone of Turnbull's caliber speaking out, so bluntly, against

1:23.6

the Murdoch's.

1:25.1

So without any further ado, let's get to the full interview with Malcolm Turnbull.

1:31.2

Thank you so much for joining me.

1:33.0

Great to be with you.

1:34.0

Do you perceive that world leaders and former heads of state are afraid of taking on the

1:40.0

Murdoch media empire, and if so, why is that?

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