Malcolm Nance on The Insurgents Who Want to Kill Americans

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🗓️ 19 July 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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By the end of the summer of 2020 -- after a violent militia group plotted to kidnap Michigan governor Gretchen Whitmer and after Proud Boys members attacked Black Lives Matters protesters in cities around the country -- it was clear to intelligence professionals that these groups "were planning for war." That's according to counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance, whose new book "They Want to Kill Americans" traces the rise of what he calls TITUS, or the Trump Insurgency in the United States. We'll talk to Nance about who the insurgents are and how we can counteract the threat they pose to our democracy. Guests: Malcolm Nance, former United States naval intelligence officer, specializing in cryptology & counterterrorism. His new book is "They Want to Kill Americans: The Militias, Terrorists, and Deranged Ideology of the Trump Insurgency." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:20.6	We talk with counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance about his new book, They Want to Kill Americans.
1:26.6	And by they, Nance means armed right-wing
1:29.9	extremists in America who are uniting and plotting to install a domestic dictatorship. We'll
1:35.8	talk to Nance about how serious a threat these groups pose and we'll hear his assessment of the
1:41.3	war in Ukraine. Nance is a member of Ukraine's Foreign Fighters Legion
1:45.3	and just return from the country. Forum is I'm Mina Kim.
2:07.6	In his new book called They Want to Kill Americans, Counterterrorism expert Malcolm Nance
2:13.1	traces the recent rise of right-wing U.S. extremist groups who are armed and, as he says,
2:19.9	planning for war.
2:21.9	Meantime, Nance has just returned from the war in Ukraine, where Russian missile strikes across Ukraine
2:27.4	intensified this weekend, as Russia appeared to lift its so-called operational pause.
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