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This guy doesn't like it when I call him a modern day philosopher.

I don't know if we're allowed to have any of those anymore.

We call them comedians, but regardless, I've enjoyed his work for a long time.

And what I especially enjoy Malcolm is the discerning choices you make now on where it

is your curiosities lead you because you could basically find yourself anywhere, but it

seems to me with your choices that you're following your curiosities.

So when you devote yourself in a six-part podcast series to the legacy of speed, and thank

you for joining us as always, what is it that you're trying to accomplish?

Why is it that you're following this particular fuse toward the explosion?

I, you know, the whole series is based on, it's the story behind that iconic photograph

of John Carlos and Tommy Smith on the victory stand in the 1968 Olympics.

Tommy Smith won the 200-in-a-world record time.

John Carlos was third.

I remember that photograph as a kid as I'm sure you do too.

And I always, you know, I was a big track and field fan at the time, but it was more than

that. It was like it somehow symbolized an entire era in the civil rights movement.

And I never knew the story behind it.

And you know, I've gone my whole life with that image of my head without knowing what

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