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Malcolm Gladwell wants to make you cry

Channels with Peter Kafka

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business News, News, Tv & Film, Technology

4.4585 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2016

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Malcolm Gladwell, New Yorker columnist and author of "The Tipping Point," talks with Recode's Peter Kafka about his new podcast, "Revisionist History." Gladwell thinks his new foray into audio will have a more emotional effect on listeners than his columns and books, because "you feel with your ears and you think with your eyes." He also discusses how he wandered into a job at the Washington Post in the 1980s and the proliferation of mass shootings in America, from Columbine to this week's tragic attack on the Pulse nightclub in Orlando. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:39.4

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0:39.5

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0:55.2

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1:11.3

Use the promo code recode.

1:13.3

Kind of weird to read sock promos in front of you, Malcolm Wedwell.

1:16.2

Why?

1:16.9

It seems like something you would not do on a podcast you would host.

1:20.3

I don't know if that's true.

1:21.5

As you know, I'm now in the same business, and I expect to be doing the same...

1:26.0

Same kind of socks shilling.

1:27.8

Yes. Well, I think it's kind of great. I kind of like it too, actually. It's very novel for me. Like you said, you're the podcast business. You are a world renowned and really excellent writer from New Yorker. You've written many famous books. And now you are making a podcast and that's why you're here today. You've made the podcast. You'll be able to hear it when this drops.

1:46.0

Tell us what it is and why you're doing it.

1:48.0

It's called Robitianist History. It's 10 episodes, and they're all, it's reported. It's not... It's not this. It's not two guys talking. It's not two guys talking. It's like, you know, this American life sort of storytelling. And each

2:02.5

episode is about something from the past that has been either misunderstood or unjustly forgotten.

2:10.2

And hence revisionist history, I go back and I revise our understanding. So give me an example

2:15.3

of something you're revising. Everyone's. I mean, I admit, you know, the truth is the great advantage of that rubric for a show is it allows you to do virtually anything, which is what I wanted.

2:25.8

So a good chunk of these are simply Malcolm ranting about his favorite things.

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