Hey y'all from NPR I'm Sam Sanders you are listening to It's Binnam Minute.

Today on the show we are revisiting one of my favorite conversations from 2019.

The before times. It's Chad I had with Malcolm Gladwell. And bonus we had this chat in front of a live audience.

Memories.

You probably know Malcolm for his five New York Times best-selling nonfiction books.

The tipping point outliers what the dogs saw David Engelayath and Blink.

You may also know Malcolm as the host of the very popular podcast Revisionist History.

Or you may know Malcolm as a New Yorker staff writer or his years writing for The Washington Post.

Basically he's been doing this stuff for a long time.

But whether you read him or not or have listened to him or not or know him or not I can guarantee you

that someone you know at some point in their lives has bought a Malcolm Gladwell book in an airport.

I guarantee you that is how I found him.

So in this on-court chat Malcolm and I talked about his latest book at that time.

It's called Talking to Strangers What We Should Know About The People We Don't Know.

This book tackles some really heavy topics that are still really timely right now.

And you'll hear in a bit why Malcolm wanted to go in that direction.

You know we also talked about why one of the constants in his reporting four years has been policing.

And Malcolm Gladwell explained his close connections to two politicians who at the time were running for president.

One, to would eventually become our vice president.

All right with that here's me and Malcolm Gladwell live at Lysner Auditorium at the George Washington University

in front of a packed house back in 2019. All right enjoy.

So my weird thing is that I have to do all my interviews with my shoes off.

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