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Fresh Air

Malala Yousafzai

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🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Nobel Laureate Malala Yousafzai spoke with Terry Gross about bravery, marriage, and defying cultural norms. She was 15 when a Taliban gunman shot her, in response to her advocacy for girls’ education. “When I look back, I'm like, yes, that was a crazy thing that I did. I put my life at risk. But, at the time, what scared me more was a life without an education as a girl. It terrified me.” 


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This is fresh air. I'm Terry Gross. As remarkable as it is that my guest Malala Yousafzai won the Nobel Peace Prize when she was 17. There are remarkable ways she's been living her life since then. Let's start with a famous part of her story. She was born in 1997 and grew up in a remote region of Pakistan-Swatt Valley near the Afghanistan border. In 2008, after the Taliban

0:24.6

invaded her town, terrorizing the people, they banned girls' education. She publicly spoke out for her

0:32.0

right and the right of all girls to go to school. As payback in 2012 when she was 15, she was shot in the head by a Taliban

0:40.2

gunman. She was flown to a hospital in England where she continues to live. Her recovery was

0:46.3

miraculous. It's when I read her recent memoir, finding my way, that I learned how the bullet

0:51.9

changed the course of her life, thrusting her into a new culture,

0:55.9

and changing her in ways that didn't quite fit her public image as an inspirational hero and

1:01.2

top student, and sometimes even challenged her own self-image. When she was admitted to Oxford

1:07.1

University, a dream come true, she wanted to live the life of a teenager and find time

1:12.3

to make friends, have fun, have adventures, including jumping from her dorm roof to the campus

1:17.9

bell tower. She defied some of her culture's traditions and her parents' expectations from how

1:24.5

she dressed to who she married. At the same time, she was experiencing PTSD and panic

1:29.9

attacks for the first time, recovering from her multiple surgeries and continuing to raise

1:35.5

money for the foundation she co-founded with her father to advocate and raise money for girls' education

1:41.6

in places where that is banned. All this took time from her college

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studies, and she felt like a fraud, a symbol of female education who was barely passing some of

1:52.2

her classes. Another thing I learned from her book and from hearing her speak is that she's very

1:57.6

self-aware, introspective, and funny. I spoke with her last Tuesday evening in front of an audience at W. HYY,

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where she was given this year's Lifelong Learning Award.

2:09.9

Malala, it is such an honor to have you here tonight.

2:12.3

I'm so excited to have the opportunity to talk with you.

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It's so nice to be here.

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