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Alive with Steve Burns

Malala Yousafzai on Being “Malala”

Alive with Steve Burns

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture

5.0588 Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Malala Yousafzai joins Steve Burns for an intimate, wide-ranging conversation about surviving the Taliban, winning the Nobel Peace Prize at 17, and growing up under a global spotlight as “the bravest girl in the world.”  Malala also opens up about college life, falling in love, online scrutiny, panic attacks, and therapy. In a candid look at mental health and public expectations, she redefines bravery. It’s a human conversation about resilience, growth, and staying true to yourself.  —--------------------------------------------------------------------- ** if you like this episode, then check out these ** Jamie Lee Curts on “Not Giving a Sh*t” - https://youtu.be/WRy-7ENcvoU   The Dangers of Charisma  https://youtu.be/feh3bAha3P0   ——————————————— Exclusive Offers For Our Listeners:   Our listeners get 15% off plus free shipping when they buy two or more pairs of prescription glasses at WarbyParker.com/ALIVE — using our link helps support the show. #WarbyParker #ad   Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co and use code STEVE at checkout.   Check out Little Saints and discover your Magic Hour. Visit littlesaints.com and use code ALIVE to get 15% Off Your First Order.    Head to MarleySpoon.com/offer/ALIVE for up to 25 FREE meals!   Go to zocdoc.com/alive to find and instantly book a doctor you love today.    Go to bioptimizers.com/alive and use my exclusive code ALIVE15 to get 15% off any order.   ——————————————— Alive with Steve Burns - Season One Episode 21 | Malala  Yousafzai Instagram: @alivewithsteveburns TikTok: @alivewithsteveburns ———————————————— There are a thousand podcasts you can listen to. This one listens back.   Alive with Steve Burns continues the conversation you began all those years ago. Back then it was letters and numbers and graham crackers. Now it’s death, sex, taxes, and all the big, messy questions of being alive. Why does money stress us out? Is the American dream dead? What’s the future of truth? Each week, a new guest drops by Steve’s window for a genuine and respectful dialogue between two people just trying to figure it out, together.   Funny, tender, and just a little weird, this show invites you to sit down and think with Steve once again and wonder… what it really means to be Alive.   —------------------------------------------   Seriously. You are not alone. You are cared for. If you need someone to listen please reach out:   National Suicide and Crisis Hotline: https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI Helpline: https://www.nami.org/nami-helpline/ Crisis Text Line: https://www.crisistextline.org/   Keywords: steve burns, malala Yousafzai, bravery, courage, being Malala, taliban, women’s rights and education, Malala Fund, Malala Nobel Peace Prize, Nobel Peace Prize Watch full episodes of Alive on YouTube. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    If you haven’t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. You’ll get ad-free episodes and bonus content from Steve. Just hit the 'subscribe' button on Apple Podcasts, or, for all other podcast apps head to lemonadapremium.com to subscribe.    Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Yeah, you were kind of not a great student for a minute there, right?

0:09.6

College, I was prioritizing, like, hanging out with friends till like 3 a.m.

0:15.0

And I was saying yes to every invitation because I felt that I wanted to be everywhere.

0:19.9

And I was like, I want to be at every gathering, every event, every dinner, party.

0:23.6

Hey, there you are, come on in. Good to see you. Welcome to Alive.

0:43.8

All right. Here's a question for you.

0:47.2

Would you say that you are brave?

0:57.0

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

1:02.0

I'm making tea. You want tea?

1:06.0

Um...

1:09.0

I would like to say that I am brave,

1:12.8

that I am a person who does hard, scary things in the world.

1:18.0

But if I'm being honest,

1:22.3

there are many times where I feel very much the opposite.

1:25.9

You know?

1:27.3

You know.

1:30.0

So I've been wondering what bravery even is,

1:34.1

what it means to have courage.

1:39.2

You know, I kind of grew up thinking

1:40.3

that true courage

1:42.5

is something only very special people have, right?

1:46.2

That it's the people who never waver, who never hesitate.

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