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H.B.R. presents. Hi there I'm Azee Mazaar and you're listening to Exponential View.

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Now, my guest today is my friend and one of the leading lights of

venture capital in Europe the founding general partner of Kindred Capital Lila

Zenia. Now before she found Kindred Lila developed a varied career across wildly different sectors from

consulting to genomics and online marketplaces before becoming a loan angel investor to many

many startups. This led her to founding Kidron Capital, a VC firm,

with a different billing itself as an equitable venture capitalist, where startup founders

become members of the fund itself. Now I have to declare an interest. I am an advisor

to Kindred Capital and I was a venture partner there for a couple of years so I know Lila and

Kindred fairly well but hopefully this will let me

dig into the issues that swirl around venture capital with even more depth than

usual. Now before we get started some terms of art to help you navigate some of our conversation.

We use the phrase A-U-M, that means assets under management.

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