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Making The Outdoors Great For Everyone. July 3, 2020, Part 1

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🗓️ 3 July 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

It’s the start to a holiday weekend, which often means spending time outdoors, whether that’s going to the beach, on a hike, or grilling in a park. But not everyone feels safe enjoying the great outdoors—and we’re not talking about getting mosquito bites or sunburns. In late May, a white woman, Amy Cooper, called the police on a Black bird watcher who asked her to leash her dog. This incident felt familiar to many other Black outdoor enthusiasts, many of whom had encountered similar experiences of racism outside. To understand why the outdoors is an unwelcoming place for some people, we need to look back at our violent history. Joining Ira to talk about this is Dr. Carolyn Finney, author of the book Black Faces, White Spaces. She is also a scholar-in-residence at Middlebury College in Vermont. And later in the conversation, Ira is joined by two scientists, biology graduate student Corina Newsome from Statesboro, Georgia, and exploration geoscientist Tim Shin from Houston, Texas. They’ll talk about what it’s like to do fieldwork while Black, and what responsibility academic institutions should have in keeping their students safe.   As coronavirus cases surge across the U.S., including in Texas, Florida, Arizona, and California, it’s more important than ever to have an accurate and real-time understanding of transmission. Epidemiologists have been measuring the spread of the virus based on the number of individual people who test positive. But depending on when people get tested, and how long it takes to get their results, confirmed cases can lag days behind actual infections. Luckily, there’s another way to find out where people are getting sick: The virus that causes COVID-19 can be detected in feces, and for months, researchers have been studying whether sampling sewage systems can help identify new outbreaks faster. Scientific American technology editor Sophie Bushwick joins Ira to talk about the value of sewage tracing for COVID-19. Plus, a new sparrow song has gone viral in Canada, and why summer fireworks can damage not only your hearing, but also your lungs.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Ira Flato. A bit later in the hour, we'll talk about how we can make

0:05.2

the great outdoors a safe and inclusive place for everyone. But first, the pandemic is worsening in

0:12.9

the United States, and the records keep shattering. This week, we saw the number of New Daily

0:18.3

cases top 50,000 for the first time, and case numbers are rising in 40 states.

0:24.2

But all of those case numbers rely on thousands of individuals getting tested, which, as we've seen throughout the pandemic, can be difficult depending on where you are and there's a time delay.

0:36.5

But what if you could see where COVID was peaking before the

0:40.6

test results come back? Here to talk about one potential surveillance method, sewage,

0:47.1

is Scientific American Technology editor Sophie Bushwick. Sophie, welcome back.

0:51.7

Thank you. You know, you've started with one of my favorite topics, sewage.

0:56.5

We'll talk about that at some other time.

0:59.7

Well, sewage is an amazing thing because it's not limited by wealth or by ability to access tests, right?

1:09.2

Everybody poops.

1:10.0

And in an area with a working sewage system, we've got this way to surveil an entire population.

1:18.0

So before the pandemic, researchers had been using this method to look at the use of drugs in an area.

1:24.5

And now they're able to find viral RNA from the novel coronavirus in sewage. And people,

1:33.1

it's not just in the U.S. people all over the world have been looking at this as a method of

1:38.6

tracking the novel coronavirus. One group in Spain found that they detected coronavirus in the sewage of an area before any

1:47.3

positive tests started coming in. So it could provide a way to spot when an outbreak is about to

1:53.7

happen. Now, we're seeing a lot of outbreaks around the country. Could we have seen them and

1:58.7

detected them sooner by looking at their sewage systems?

2:03.3

So it's still a little bit of a new tool, and it's definitely going to have limitations.

2:09.2

For example, it's hard to tell, you know, what the concentration of RNA in a sewage sample,

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