From KCRW and KCRW.com, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

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Oh, I'm afraid he's gone Hollywood.

This week on the business, Swedish filmmaker Malik Benjaloo had to overcome big obstacles to make his documentary searching for Sugarman.

He even shot part of it on an iPhone.

Now it's an Oscar contender, but first the the Hollywood News banter. Stick around. It's

the business from KCRW.

You can imagine Hollywood everything is really driven by making money.

What's with him?

I'm joined by my fellow banterer, John Horn of the Los Angeles Times, in Park City, Utah for the Sundance Film Festival.

Hello, John.

Hello, Kim.

As we are recording, the festival is just getting underway, and I understand there are 119 films, 16 features and 16 documentaries in competition.

And among those features, I know, one of the striking points has been

that half are directed by women, which makes women much better represented at Sundance than in the

rest of the Hollywood world. But John, what are you seeing as the interesting trends or

issues that will be joined at Sundance this year? I think one of the more interesting questions is what's going to happen to these movies after the festival is over.

Traditionally, filmmakers come to Park City, Utah, and hope that a theatrical distributor will pick up their film and will be shown in theaters.

But over the last couple of years, there's been a new and very successful financial model.

And I think most successfully last year with Arbitrage and Bachel financial model, and I think most successfully

last year with Arbitrage and Bachelorette, two movies that did incredible business through

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