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My friends and my family said, Dan, is this a cash grab?

This is the most obvious movie ever.

And then, you know, when Warner Brothers went with the title of the Lego movie, you know,

I had so many people going, Dan, please, this is so lame of you.

Producer Dan Lynn endured years of skepticism as he made the Lego movie. He talks about tuning out the haters and convincing the Lego group

that he could make a captivating movie based on those colored bricks. But first on the Hollywood

news banter, the loss of Philip Seymour Hoffman has the visual effects community thinking

of high-tech answers when tragedy strikes. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW.

Hi. tragedy strikes. Stick around. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined by my banter buddy,

John Horn of the Los Angeles Times. Hello, John. Hello, Kim. So, John, the results are in,

and despite the fact that the Super Bowl game was a rather peculiar and lopsided event, it is now officially the most watched event in television history with 111.5 million viewers.

Yeah, clearly they weren't counting our household because we turned it off right after Bruno Mars.

I thought the numbers would go down, but they did not. And this underscores something we often talk about in the banter, the value of sports. And that is something that has once again been demonstrated by a deal that CBS has made.

You know, and the NFL has been trying to open up another night for football, Thursday night.

They've been running Thursday night games on the NFL network.

Now there's a deal with CBS for about $300 million. CBS will run eight early season games of Thursday night football starting in the fall. Yeah. And the amazing thing is this is considered a rock bottom price. This is a discount that you get eight football games for almost $300 million. feels like a lot of money, but given how much advertising rates have been for football

and how live sports are proving to be the savior of satellite and cable television, it feels

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