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Welcome to Amicus Slates Podcast about the Supreme Court. I'm Dahlia Lithwick,

Slates Supreme Court correspondent and as you've probably already heard, this was a great

big fat week at the Supreme Court. Folks started lining up five days before arguments

to get a seat in the chamber for Oberkfeld versus Hodges, the gay marriage case heard this

year. And by Tuesday the day of oral arguments, the plaza outside the court was teaming with

balloons and banners, evangelicals and hussets carrying signs explaining their positions

and protestations on gay marriage. There was a bevy of protesters, one of whom actually

made his way right into oral argument and had to be dragged bodily out of the chamber,

screaming at the top of his lungs by what seemed like five or six marshals. Today on Amicus,

we're going to bring you some of the highlights of the ensuing two and a half hours of historic

argument. And we're going to bring it right into your earbuds. Here with me to discuss

this historic appeal is Doug Hallward Dreamire of Roaps and Grey. He was one of the three

lawyers who argued on behalf of the plaintiffs, the same-sex plaintiffs, who want their

marriages recognized in their states. Doug has argued 15 cases at the high court, well,

16 now and he's filed more than 150 briefs there. He served as assistant to the solicitor

general in the US Justice Department. We're delighted to have him here with us, Doug. Welcome

to the show. Thank you, Dahlia. So glad to be here with you.

I think it would be incredibly helpful for listeners if you could unpack the two different

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