Making Steel Wars is a new collaborative podcast between myself and Making Star Wars.net's Jason Ward, where we talk about the stories behind the stories and we go in depth on the Star Wars news items of today and yesteryear.

And here's a clip.

On the site, I'm more, I'm more guarded than I really am.

I'm more confident than my writing would lead you to believe, I think.

I'm like, this could be a code name.

But that's more of like my out because I'm pretty sure I'm right. But at the same time, I don't want to like

triple down on it and say like, trust me guys, because especially because things could like change.

There's like reports from Rogue One that I never ran and that had I run, I would have looked bad, but they

were filmed.

It did happen.

But movies changed so much and all that that you just never know what's, what's going to be

correct.

So like when you're in a room full of all these people and you realize like when you're in

that room that like a lot of the people don't read spoilers, but if there are

people, if the people who read spoilers are there, like they would go to that. They would camp out

overnight to, to see that. And it would just be really crappy to be in a place and then have

everything you've been working on for like a year be wrong. And then everyone to go, or every time

you run in somebody go oh

better luck next time dude or you misled me you piece of junk you know that kind of stuff like

and there's people on reddit who like will hear me make a joke and then remember the joke as

being something i said seriously or they didn't get the joke or whatever and so like it's it's really kind of nerve-wracking too because like when there was stuff

going down for Force Awakens, we had all of the code names.

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