Hey everybody is hoda Kopi from the today show. I am so excited to share with you a special

preview of season five of my podcast Making Space. You are about to hear a clip of my conversation

with my dear friend and today show co-anchor Savannah Guthrie.

She's opening up about a very personal project.

It's her new book called Mostly What God Does, Reflections on seeking and finding his love everywhere. I hope you enjoy.

Okay, first of all, this is totally weird. Because what I feel like's happening right now is

the conversations that we have before the show on the set,

which I have to confess are some of the most meaningful conversations I have all day long.

Me too. For reels. So you brought this up to me a long time ago and you

had this idea, this feeling, this sense that it was time to write a book about faith, kind of.

So tell me how it came to be initially.

Well, I mean, you were there.

What happened was, you know, from time to time

since I wrote the kids books, a publisher, an editor might call, and be like, oh, do you want to write a cookbook?

Or do you want to do this or do you want to do another of those princess's books?

And I'm like, no, because you know, Hoda, how low energy and lazy I really am am I'm the opposite of you. I'm the opposite of

Janet you all have 16 jobs you have a podcast you have a production company this that I'm not I go

home I take a nap and then I hang out with my kids, and that's it.

And so I've always just, I just have never said yes to any of those things.

And last year around this time, I got a call about, would you ever want to write something about your faith?

And I didn't say no right away.

I was like, you know, that's something I could get excited about.

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