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Susie Larson Live

Making space for hope with Dr. Lee Warren

Susie Larson Live

Faith Radio

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8835 Ratings

🗓️ 12 September 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Lee Warren joins us each month to talk about self-brain surgery. Today they talk about how to make space in your life for hope. 

Find Dr. Lee Warren's podcast here.

Dr. Warren's book is "Hope Is the First Dose: A Treatment Plan for Recovering from Trauma, Tragedy, and Other Massive Things."

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Susie Larson.

0:01.1

Here's the podcast from Susie Larson Live.

0:03.4

Enjoy the conversation.

0:22.8

Welcome to Susie Larson Live.

0:25.2

Always so honored to get to spend this time with you.

0:31.0

I look forward to bringing you conversations every single day that hopefully inspire you in your faith walk,

0:36.9

that deepen your understanding of God's Word, and that heightens your awareness of his very real presence in your life.

0:38.2

Well, last month when we had our good friend, Dr. Lee Warren on the show, we talked about what do you do with fear, like practical,

0:43.5

practical ways to deal with the kinds of fears that you face. Well, today, we're going to talk about

0:48.1

how to keep hope alive. And maybe you've heard me share this story before, but it bears repeating

0:53.0

for today's show.

0:58.9

When I was going through one of my really tough health stretches, I quoted the Bible back to God.

1:01.5

You want to make sure you know what you're talking about when you do that.

1:02.5

Just note to self.

1:07.1

But I told them, I'm heart sick because my hope has been deferred for so long.

1:12.4

And I was referring that verse in Proverbs that says, hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a promise fulfilled is a tree of life. Immediately, I felt conviction from the Holy Spirit,

1:18.6

and I felt the Father's discipline lovingly, but he said, look it up. And I knew I was in trouble.

1:23.5

So I looked it up, and guess what? The word hope here, deferred, I mean, the word deferred in this

1:28.5

passage, hope deferred. The word deferred is a verb. It's an action word. So it means to put off

1:35.5

hope, kind of like to kick the can down the field, to postpone, to defer a payment. Like,

1:39.8

let's say you want to postpone your loan payments. You defer them to a later date. You're postponing paying,

1:45.4

right? Well, to postpone hope, then, is to make your heart sick, which means your heart can't live

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