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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Making Sense Of War Crimes Committed By Loved Ones

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4678 Ratings

🗓️ 22 March 2022

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

When propaganda shapes our worldview, it makes it easier to commit atrocities under false pretenses.

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast from WNYC Studios. It's Tuesday, March 22nd.

0:14.8

For today's podcast, we're going to play some amazing listener stories that came in during my live show this morning.

0:23.0

And, of course, you're always invited to join the live feed from 10 a.m. to noon Eastern Time at WNYC.org.

0:30.0

The call-in was based on the video that Arnold Schwarzenegger released the other day,

0:35.2

addressing Russian soldiers to try to tell them what kinds of war crimes

0:39.4

are really taking place in Ukraine in their name before they have to live with the guilt and shame

0:45.2

that Arnold's father had to live with after he was a soldier in the Nazi army and only later

0:51.5

learned about the things they had done. So we invited callers to say if they or their family members have ever had an experience like that,

1:00.9

and what we got was interesting and moving.

1:03.7

We'll pick this up as I'm setting up the Schwarzenegger video clip.

1:07.9

Why do we frame this as having people in the generations before you who are on the

1:12.9

wrong side of history? Because Arnold Schwarzenegger said this. When my father arrived in

1:19.2

Leningrad, he was all pumped up on the lives of his government. And when he left Leningrad,

1:25.3

he was broken, physically and mentally.

1:28.8

He lived the rest of his life in pain, pain from a broken back, pain from the shrapnel

1:34.1

that always reminded him of this terrible years and pain from the guilt that he felt.

1:40.9

To the Russian soldiers listening to this broadcast, you already know much of the truth that I've been speaking.

1:47.0

You've seen it with your own eyes.

1:50.0

I don't want you to be broken like my father.

1:54.0

I don't want you Russian soldiers to be broken like my father.

2:00.0

See, Arnold Schwarzenegger's father was a soldier for the Nazis.

2:04.9

So Schwarzenegger in his video to the Russian people talked there about how his father had

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