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This is the Pack a Day podcast.

Welcome back, Packers fans.

Happy Thursday, otherwise known as Baby Friday in my world in the working people's world.

Not all of us have to deal with that.

And so I introduce your Thursday Packetay crew.

I'm Jason Perone.

As always, you can find me at X slash Twitter with me as always of Packer Report, and I guess we'll call you semi-retired, is Mark Echle.

Mark, your schedule is always very busy.

It's impressive for somebody who's not working your typical 8 to 5.

You do a good job of keeping yourself busy.

I feel like Al Pacino and Godfather 3.

Every time I'm out, they pull me back in.

They pull me back in.

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I'm not, it's not like I was, unless compared to what I used to do.

I don't do anything, but I keep busy.

I keep busy doing this and that and writing for

different people it's fun yes yes yeah it does well and the NFL the best part about it well

for me the best part is i don't have to do it i choose to do it i'm saying i i you know somebody

calls me and says hey you want to do a story about this and this and this. If I don't want to, I say,

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