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Hey there, folks.

It is Saturday, January 10th,

and we too are trying to make sense of all of these headlines. We've been seeing this week about a 10th and we too are trying to make sense of all of these headlines we've been seeing this week about a toxic mom group and Robs just informed me I might have fallen for a big old PR stunt and with that welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J. Okay, Robes, first of all,

Ashley Tisdale, toxic mom group, everybody's been seeing the headlines all week. You tell me,

am I wrong for dismissing this as nothing more than just some clickbait and has some

celebrity names and this has been blown out of proportion. Am I wrong

to dismiss it as just that? I don't think it's been blown out of proportion in that it

resonated. So this is something that us girls deal with our entire lives and us moms actually

teach our daughters. At least I know something that my mom told me and i

told my girls you never leave high school yes women support women and yes that's beautiful and yes

that happens every day and we need more of it but truth be told women cut each other down to a lot of

times and sometimes friendships do turn toxic and when you get a gaspidated But truth be told, women cut each other down to a lot of times.

And sometimes friendships do turn toxic.

And when you get a gaggle of girls together, hierarchies form, clicks form.

It's just what happens, unfortunately.

Even with good people, with good intentions, it just seems to socially happen. Okay. If it socially

happens, that's fine. It's accepted. It's understood and it can be unfortunate and you want to teach

your daughters to do different. Does it have to be aired out in such a way that now you have high

profile celebrity, successful women who are now been put in a position

to have to field accusations essentially that they are the toxic ones. That's the

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