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with Indeed. Hi, Bill Crystal here. Welcome to the bulwark on sunday very pleased to be

joined by my colleague will summer the writer twice a week i guess of the excellent newsletter false

flag on what is going on on the on the right on the extreme right if that's a distinction that still

exists i don't know but the online extreme right.

Anyway, it's a bit terrific.

How long have you been with us? Well, about a year, right? About a year. That's right. I think it'll be a year in a few weeks. Excellent. A big upgrade for the bulwark. And I hope not too much of a downgrade for you. So it's, but thank you for, thanks for joining us. and thanks for really people need to read false flag it's really been terrific used to joke about it that, you know, you cover all this insane stuff so the rest of us don't have to. But actually this insane stuff is kind of important stuff, it turns out, in the world. We now live in the second Trump administration and in the medical world. So I thought you'd give us a little bit of a tour through it. Tell us what sort of, you've written on various

topics recently, and it's been in the various forms of extremism have been in the news from

Carrie Prejan on the Religious Liberty Commission to Jeremy Carl, this fellow who was nominated

by Trump to be Assistant Secretary of State. Candice Owens, you wrote about, maybe we should begin

to that, you just wrote about that, Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk's organization, T.P. USA. And then I want to ask at the end, just people can think about it as we're talking is, how important is all this and how mainstream is it? And you've been covering it before you can't do the billwork. How has it gotten more extreme, more powerful than it used to be? But let's begin with the Candace Owens thing, which is pretty extraordinary. You wrote about it just a couple of days ago. So what's up with Candace Owens and intern at U.S. USA? Sure. So Candice Owens is this sort of mega popular right-wing YouTuber, but who's also, you know, not just with sort of

Trump people. I mean, she's had some breakouts into, I think, more prominent. You know, I was getting my hair cut a few weeks ago, and the woman cutting my hair said, well, what do you think of Candace Owens? Don't you think she's on to something? And I thought, oh, my brother. And I said, She has millions.

We're talking, I mean, millions of people watching her on YouTube, right?

Yes.

And so she has sort of some claims. brother. She has million, and we're talking, I mean, millions of people watching her on YouTube, right?

Yes. And so she has sort of some claims to fame, one of which is she thinks Brigitte McCrone is trans and part of sort of a centuries old criminal cabal.

And then that ties in with her other belief, which is that her old friend Charlie Kirk was murdered, not by Tyler Robinson

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