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Making Sense with Sam Harris

Making Sense of Free Will | Episode 5 of The Essential Sam Harris

Making Sense with Sam Harris

Waking Up with Sam Harris

Samharris, Currentevents, Politics, Ethics, Religion, Neuroscience, Science, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.629.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2023

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, we examine the timeless question of “free will”: what constitutes it, what is meant by it, what ought to be meant by it, and, of course, whether we have it at all. We start with the neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky who begins to deflate the widely held intuition and assumption of “libertarian free will” by drawing out a mechanistic and determined description of the universe.

We then hear from the philosopher who has long been Sam’s intellectual wrestling opponent on this subject, Daniel Dennett. Dennett and Sam spar about definitional and epistemological frameworks of what Dennett insists is “free will,” and what Sam contends could never be.

The author and physicist Sean Carroll then engages Sam with more attempts to find a philosophically defensible notion of free will by leaning on the unknowable nature of the universe revealed by quantum mechanics. We then listen in on Sam’s engagement with the mathematician and author Judea Pearl who focuses on matters of causation to tease out a freedom of will.

After a historical review of Princess Elizabeth’s famous exchanges with Rene Descartes, we hear from the biologist Jerry Coyne, who firmly agrees with Sam that a deterministic picture of reality leaves absolutely no room for anything like free will.

We then hear from the curiously entertaining mind of comedian and producer Ricky Gervais who was thinking about free will while taking a bath when he decided to phone Sam.

We conclude with Sam’s own response to concerns that an erasure of free will inevitably result in fatalism, loss of meaning, and passive defeat. Sam insists that the loss of free will actually pushes us in the opposite direction where we begin to see hatred and vengeance as incoherent and start to connect with a deeper and truer sense of genuine compassion.

About the Series

Filmmaker Jay Shapiro has produced The Essential Sam Harris, a new series of audio documentaries exploring the major topics that Sam has focused on over the course of his career.

Each episode weaves together original analysis, critical perspective, and novel thought experiments with some of the most compelling exchanges from the Making Sense archive. Whether you are new to a particular topic, or think you have your mind made up about it, we think you’ll find this series fascinating.

Transcript

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Welcome to the Making Sense Podcast. This is Sam Harris. Just a note to say that if you're

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hearing this, you are not currently on our subscriber feed and will only be hearing

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the first part of this conversation. In order to access full episodes of the Making Sense

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to add to your favorite pod catcher, along with other subscriber-only content. We don't run ads

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on the podcast, and therefore it's made possible entirely through the support of our subscribers.

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So if you enjoy what we're doing here, please consider becoming one.

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Welcome to the Essential Sam Harris. This is Making Sense of Free Will. The goal of this series

0:57.6

is to organize, compile, and juxtapose conversations hosted by Sam Harris in the specific areas of

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interest. This is an ongoing effort to construct a coherent overview of Sam's perspectives and arguments.

1:10.8

The various explorations and approaches to the topic, the relevant agreements and disagreements,

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and the pushbacks and evolving thoughts which his guests have advanced. The purpose of these

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compilations is not to provide a complete picture of any issue, but to entice you to go deeper into

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these subjects. Along the way, we'll point you to the full episodes with each featured guest,

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and at the conclusion, we'll offer some reading, listening, and watching suggestions, which range

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from fun and light to densely academic. One note to keep in mind for this series. Sam has long

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argued for a unity of knowledge where the barriers between fields of study are viewed as largely

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unhelpful artifacts of unnecessarily partitioned thought. The pursuit of wisdom and reason in one

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area of study naturally bleeds into and greatly affects others. You'll hear plenty of crossover

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into other topics as these dives into the archives unfold, and you're thinking about a particular

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topic may shift as you realize its contingent relationships with others. In this topic, you'll hear

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the natural overlap with theories of consciousness, artificial intelligence, belief and unbelief,

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