Making Sense of COVID Data and Risk | Prof. Norman Fenton - E413
Low Carb MD Podcast
Drs. Brian Lenzkes & Tro Kalayjian
4.8 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 6 October 2025
⏱️ 72 minutes
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Summary
Professor Norman Fenton is a mathematician and risk expert who rose to prominence during COVID for cutting through flawed statistics and exposing how data was used and misused to shape policy.
"There was never any justification for the lockdowns in the first place, and the whole COVID hysteria was based on massively exaggerated case and mortality numbers created by flawed definitions, easily manipulated data, and inaccurate mass testing of healthy people."
In this episode, Dr. Brian, Dr. Tro, and Prof. Norman talk about…
- (00:00) Intro
- (01:52) Governmental misinterpretation of Covid data and the resulting Covid policies
- (12:05) False Covid case numbers
- (17:40) The complicity of the scientific, academic, and physician communities in Covid vaccine policies and lockdown policies
- (25:12) How flawed and manipulated the PCR test is
- (29:02) The true devestation of the lockdowns
- (32:55) Prof. Norman's fellow colleagues who joined him in challenging the Covid narrative
- (35:29) Early warning signs that the mRNA Covid vaccines were not going to be safe or effective
- (46:55) How the all-cause mortality data has changed since the initial release of the vaccines
- (48:30) Vaccine risk/benefit for healthy, fit people
- (49:47) Early red flags about the whole Covid situation and governmental responses
- (51:16) How much money people made off of the Covid situation
- (54:28) Prof. Norman's personal experience fighting the Covid machine
- (01:01:39) Israel's Covid mortality data and suppression of valid data from respected researchers
- (01:08:50) Why vaccine related deaths are probably exaggerated
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Transcript
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Low Carb MD Podcast. No one is beyond help. No one is beyond hope. |
| 0:07.2 | Nothing said on the Low Carb MD podcast is medical advice. Please consult your own doctor before making any lifestyle changes. |
| 0:24.0 | Hello and welcome back to the low carb MD podcast. |
| 0:26.2 | Trow, this is going to be something. |
| 0:28.9 | I think it's going to be mind-blowing for a lot of people. |
| 0:30.1 | I know it will be for me. |
| 0:32.6 | So we have a great guest today. |
| 0:34.5 | Absolutely. |
| 0:54.6 | I'm really, really pleased. I know, I first heard this speaker on Zoe Harcum's podcast. Maybe it was a year ago. And I was blown away. I was completely blown away. It's exact. He put into words what I was thinking. And then I looked more into him. And it turns out he is a doctor in mathematics who's been looking at statistics, AI, risk |
| 1:02.3 | assessment. |
| 1:03.8 | He's a professor emeritus at Queen Mary University in London and retired. |
| 1:10.6 | But he has written over 400 peer-reviewed articles. |
| 1:14.9 | He did his bachelor's, master's, and PhD in mathematics at Sheffield University. |
| 1:22.0 | And he is the author of a book, which I think you could see there uh fighting goliath i believe is the title |
| 1:29.0 | right yeah yeah absolutely we'll put those in the show the show notes um professor fighting |
| 1:38.7 | goliath yeah that's that's the truth oh my goodness that's what we're up against |
| 1:43.7 | professor we're so against. Professor. |
| 1:45.2 | We were so excited that. |
| 1:46.7 | Kennedy Jr. |
| 1:48.0 | endorsement on the front cover there. |
| 1:51.0 | It's amazing. |
| 1:52.4 | So maybe where we could start, Professor, is just a little bit about, you know, where, you know, you're a numbers guy. |
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