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“Making Sense of China, Taiwan, & America” – Pacific Intelligence with Bonny Lin

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4.41.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 December 2023

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary Bonny Lin (Biography) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the current state of China and intelligence. Bonny is the Director of the ChinaPower Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. What You’ll Learn Intelligence China’s economic power and status The current landscape of Chinese intelligence China’s relationship with Taiwan The ChinaPower Project Reflections Power and prominence The global community as a complicated ecosystem And much, much more … Quotes of the Week “In the last couple of years, we've seen really a securitization of how China views intelligence and national security in general. And just this July, we saw China pass a revised counter espionage law. So with the whole host of laws of China's past since 2014 … it basically has made collection of intelligence and protecting Chinese national security the responsibility of every Chinese citizen.” - Bonny Lin. Resources SURFACE SKIM *SpyCasts* The Eye of Horus: Egyptian Intelligence with Dina Rezk (2023) China’s Corporate Spy War with CNBC’s Eamon Javers (2023) The Counterintelligence Chief with FBI Assistant Director Alan Kohler (2023) Trafficking Data: The Digital Struggle with China with Aynne Kokas (2022) *Beginner Resources* China-Taiwan crisis explained: What is behind the tensions?, ITV News, YouTube (2022) [3 min. video] 8 things you need to know about China’s economy, World Economic Forum (2016) [Short article] Xi Jinping, Forbes (n.d) [Brief profile] DEEPER DIVE Books Spies and Lies: How China's Greatest Covert Operations Fooled the World, A. Joske (Hardie Grant, 2022) The Chinese Invasion Threat: Taiwan’s Defense and American Strategy in Asia, I. Easton (Eastbridge Books, 2019) The Hundred-Year Marathon: China's Secret Strategy to Replace America as the Global Superpower, M. Pillsbury (St. Martin’s Griffin, 2016) Primary Sources National Intelligence Estimate – China-Taiwan: Prospects or Cross-Strait Relations (1999) Forecasting the Sino-Vietnamese Split (1986) China-Vietnam: A Status Report (1983) Establishment of a China Task Force (1966) Communist Chinese Intervention in the Vietnam War (1966) Controls on Trade with Communist China (1955) *Wildcard Resource* Need a good cookie recipe for the holidays? Try this recipe adapted from the 1300-year old cookies found during the 1915 excavation of the Astana Cemetery in Xinjiang, China. The petrified cookies are currently part of the collection of the British Museum, and still look quite tasty!

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Every week we explore some aspect of the past, present or future of intelligence and espionage, a vast

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Coming up next on SpyCass.

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Time on is the most important Chinese interest

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and that is an interest that China will not tolerate any country violating. important role in the story of our species from prehistoric times through the birth of recorded history up until our present age.

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In Washington, D.C. and around the world, China is a huge topic of conversation and for good reason. The strategic

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trajectory of China since the 1970s has had and will continue to have knock-on effects around the world, not just here in the United States.

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From the Caribbean to Sub-Saharan Africa and from Taiwan to its almost 3,500 kilometer border with the world's other largest country in terms of population, India.

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How should we make sense of China? Does it matter how we understand China?

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What is modern China?

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And what role does intelligence play in all of this?

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