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Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

Making Pitchers Uncomfortable & Best Bullpens Post Trade Deadline

Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball

The Athletic

Fantasy Baseball, Mlb, Baseball, Sports

4.7873 Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2025

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Eno, Trevor, and DVR discuss history on tap this weekend when Jen Pawol will become the first woman to umpire a regular season MLB game, the return of Michael King (and potential adjustments for JP Sears in the Padres' organization), the ways in which hitters can make life difficult on opposing pitchers, the struggles of relievers in new roles and on new clubs since the Trade Deadline, and Eno's attempt to sort out which team has the best bullpen in baseball.


Rundown

0:51 Jen Pawol: First Woman to Umpire in MLB Regular Season

2:30 Michael King: Returning Saturday; Potential Adjustments for JP Sears

7:57 Gavin Williams: Takes No-Hit Bid Into the Ninth Inning on Wednesday

10:32 Which Division Is the Toughest on Pitchers in 2025?

17:10 What Makes a Pitcher's Job More Difficult?

26:08 WAR Surfing in Evaluating Pitchers (and Cy Young Award candidates)

31:06 Making Sense of Reliever Struggles Since the Trade Deadline

38:17 Chase Rates Jump in the Ninth Inning?!

43:28 Eno's Look at the Best Bullpens in Baseball

53:34 Devin Williams' Chase Contact Rate Spike (Q from Bitcloud)

1:01:48 George Kirby v. Joe Ryan in Long-Term Situations (Q from Sierra Six)

1:08:47 Shane Baz's Slider Changes (Q from Thiago Splitchange)


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Hosts: Derek VanRiper & Eno Sarris

With: Trevor May

Producer: Brian Smith

Executive Producer: Derek VanRiper


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to rates of barrels. It's Thursday, August 7th. Derek Van Riper, Yenosares, Trevor May, here with you on this episode. We try to solve the question. Who has the best bullpen in baseball post-trade

0:24.0

deadline. Eno wrote about that for The Athletic on Thursday morning. We'll see if we get some

0:27.8

agreement across the board on his findings. Got some great mailbag questions to get to. Gavin

0:33.8

Williams took a no-hitter into the ninth inning. Eno, you might be right. Your Gavin Williams' prediction might just be happening over the course of the second half of the season. Hey, you never know. Still got some runway to get that one down. So I'm curious to see where that goes. We've got some baseball news you should know today, starting with Jen Powell. She's going to be the first woman to umpire in an MLB regular season game.

0:57.1

That's going to happen this weekend.

0:58.4

She'll be behind the plate on Sunday.

1:00.4

That debut is going to come Saturday as part of a Braves Marlins doubleheader.

1:04.5

I saw some great background stuff in the wind-up newsletter that Levi Weaver puts together

1:09.8

for The Athletic, and it linked back to a story that Richard Roli had actually written about Jen a year ago.

1:14.9

She became a AAA crew chief and has kind of been on this path of making history for a few years now.

1:21.3

The people that have worked with her have basically said, yeah, this is going to happen.

1:24.6

Jen's going to be the first woman to get that opportunity at the big league level.

1:29.0

Some great history of some other women that have gone down that road and topped out in the upper levels of the minor leagues and run into all sorts of obstacles along the way.

1:37.7

But this is exciting.

1:39.2

We've seen women in the NFL, seen it in the NBA, and now Major League Baseball finally getting on board here in

1:44.9

2025 with the arrival of Jim Powell. I love it. I can't imagine wanting to have that job.

1:51.6

Just generally, just wanting to be an umpire. It takes a special type of person to be like, yeah,

1:57.7

I'll take that heat. I'll take that criticism. And once you are that type of person, I don't think that the gender matters much. You're just that kind of person. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know anything about her. I'm sure she's just ready to go toe to toe with anybody. It's not for the meek. No. No, it is not. But looking forward to seeing that as the weekend arrives.

2:00.9

Some other baseball news you should know Michael King is going to be back in the rotation for the Padres on Saturday. I think that was the explanation for the, why did J.P. Sears go down? And I'm a little bummed by that. I think J.P. Sears is going to matter for the Padres at some point this year.

2:36.1

And Trevor, one of my arguments about J.P. Sears, the trade deadline was that he gets out of the hitter haven that is Sutter Health Park in Sacramento.

2:44.3

But he also gets into an organization that's good at developing pitching, right?

2:48.4

Working with Ruben Niebla should be a pretty big step up

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