You're listening to Who's Tom and Dick, a weekly podcast with your hosts, Martin Weavers, fighting states for lung cancer, and Patrick Mortimer, living with heart disease.

Why not grab yourself a cup of coffee? Sit back

and enjoy the chatter as we discuss and share information talking about tough subjects and offering help,

support and motivation with a positive mental attitude. How oldie, Martin? How are you today? Oh,

I've got to how old.'ve held you back, have we?

Yeah.

I'm fine, I'm fine. And before I've started the meeting today, I had a shower and then I came out in the bathroom and then instantly the shower rail fell down.

Oh, dear, what a nightmare.

Put your button fall down while you were in?

I know, I know.

But, uh...

It'd be embarrassed.

How are you, all right?

I'm fine, mate.

Yeah, good, good, good, good, looking forward to the, um, interview.

Yes, we've got a very interesting interview today, haven't we?

Hmm, we've never, ever done a rugby player, have we?

No.

We've done, ever done a rugby player, have we? No. We've done footballers.

That's been put off by rugby player because he has fought cancer twice.

Yeah.

Which is remarkable, really.

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