EO Fire, 1200 and 10, in a special birthday wish to my father, Arthur Hugh Dumas.

Happy Birthday to you!

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Hey, Fire Nation, and welcome to EO Fire, where I chat with inspiring entrepreneurs

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Johnny Dumas here and I am fired up to bring you our featured guest today, Chris Luck.

Chris, are you prepared to ignite?

100% John. Yes. Chris builds businesses. Since 1999, he's founded 15 internet businesses

in education technology and gaming industries, generating over $25 million. He's the CEO of

a marketer's paradise, which is the leading online education platform that helps people learn

the marketing skills they need to succeed online. Chris, take a minute. Fill in some gaps from

that intro and give us a little glimpse in your personal life. Sure, first off, John,

thanks so much for having me here. I've been listening to your podcast since the very beginning,

and it's been an honor to be here. You are a Fire Nation original Chris.

I am. I got started in this whole internet thing back when I was in college in 99,

and I was trying to just really find some ways that makes some extra money when I was in school,

like probably any college kid. And I started googling things like how to make money online,

because everything you're reading at the time was all these internet startups and these people

just making millions overnight. It's like, I got to figure this stuff out. So I got stuck into

actually buying like every product that had a sales page at the time, because it was,

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