Well, this is Current Yield Grants Interest Rate Observer of the Air.

I'm Jim Grant, and with me, as always, is the great deputy editor of Grants, Evan Lorenz,

Henry French, as per usual, at the control panel.

And joining us today is none other than Douglas

Seifu, the chief executive officer of Virtue Financial. And Doug will be getting to you in just

one moment. But Evan, you know, Elon Musk is, I think, is never one entrepreneur of the month

here at Grand's Interestrade Observer. Is that correct?

Longstanding for at least five or six years. Yeah, I think he's, I thought that his comment on working from home is pretty fabulous. You could quote, or semi-quote, you can pretend to work

someplace else. That was okay. But you sent me something more than it was kind of that it leaves me to think that there

might be a traffic jam of people returning to their Tesla offices.

Yes.

Elon Musk apparently submitted a memo to his employees saying that about 10% of them might

get the pink slope.

Did he say who?

Did he name names or just, just let the, the impressions settle in,

let it marinate in the staff. I would just let it marinate myself, just might quicken the pace of work, shorten the time of the water cooler, just a little more starch in the organization.

I had a guess probably the later. Yeah. So, as I said, a CEO of Virtue Financial is with us today.

Doug, I'm going to parenthetically pause. Am I pronouncing seafood correctly or my bungling?

You were doing a great job. Okay, so far. So far. My grandmother used to say Chi Fu, but we Americanized it.

Okay.

Doug is by training and longstanding as a lawyer.

He was a partner at Paul Weiss, Rifkin, Wharton, and Garrison,

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