Learning to love ourselves and our messy and complicated truth is hard enough.

But what happens when you have that feeling of otherness just hanging over your head,

where you don't feel understood even within your own tribe.

How do you confidently grow into your own skin, or maybe even grow out of it, when the road to

acceptance and healing is so rough and bumpy.

Welcome back to In the Deep stories that shape us.

I'm your host, Zach Stafford.

If you've been following us since day one,

you're familiar with the stories of

hardship our guests have shared those struggles of identity discrimination or

health and how these people have managed to move forward despite their

circumstances and if you're new, well check those

stories out. You won't regret it. We're going to continue listening to these

stories from Black and Latinics people hoping to gain clarity and get closer

even if just a little to a road of it. hoping to gain clarity and get closer,

even if just a little, to a road of healing and understanding.

I think by now all of us have had some understanding

that many black people living in America,

especially black men, have that other type of talk with our family,

the one that teaches you to keep your hands on the wheel

or respond with yes, sir, no sir answers when interacting with police and

regardless of how much you prep in advance no matter how many different scenarios you

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