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And we are live with episode 3,400 and 4 on the survival podcast and today we're going to talk about one of my favorite things in the world,

Bill Tong and I'm going to have Anton on in just a minute. We're going to talk about his company that makes Bill Tom.

We're going to talk a lot though just about making Bill Tong. I'll tell you right now, like my history with Bill Tong goes all the way back to pre- Survival

podcast reading a book by Peter Hathaway capstick and there was one little thing

about it in the end he talked about living as a professional hunter in Africa and eating it and

making it back here in the States because it was actually something you could make anywhere.

And it was probably another week and I had strips of meat hanging in my office and fell in love with it.

And so when I first met Anton online and he's like, yeah, I've got those.

I'm like, let's talk, right?

Like, you know, you know that old movie, McGuire whatever you had me at hello you had me at bill talk so we'll have Anton on in just a moment

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