Hi, I'm Roberta Glass, and you're listening to my true crime channel.

Today, we are talking to Meredith Elizabeth about making a murderer and now making a murderer too.

All the skinny.

Stay tuned.

Thank you. Thank you. Welcome Meredith Elizabeth. So I have, there is, when I thought of doing this show, there is one person I know who is the expert in the Stephen Avery case.

Not just the case, but the whole culture of supporters and non-supporters.

No one knows this better than you, Meredith Elizabeth. So I'm so excited today. They just

released Making a Murderer 2 on Brendan Dassey's birthday on the October 19th.

So I'd like to talk to you about everything about this case

and everything about the franchise, the Making a Murderer franchise.

So welcome.

I'm very to talk about it.

I know a tremendous amount that I like to share. I really got into it.

Mainly because deep have a training and after 20s and when I first and it was taken advantage of

and I sort of

watched the documentary all 10 episodes

in one day and I was horrified

at what I saw and then I

started reading. Horrified in what

way?

I, you know, when you watch a documentary

they leave a tremendous amount of information out.

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