Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio.

Good morning. This is Laura.

Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today is going to be another longer episode

as part of my ongoing series where once a week or so

I talk with somebody fascinating about how they take their days from

great to awesome.

So today I am excited to welcome Camille Pagon to the program.

Camille is a career novelist and the author of such books as Everything

Must Go and Life and other near-death experiences.

An essay highly productive author of 10 novels, she also coaches other writers on how to achieve

their goals. So Camille, welcome to the show.

Thanks, Laura. Happy to be here.

Yes, why don't you tell our listeners a little bit about yourself?

So as you said, I am a novelist.

I have written 10 works of fiction and about a dozen of other people's non-fiction books that my name is not on.

So I used to ghost write non-fiction too.

I'm a former health journalist and editor.

I've written for the New York Times, real simple where I was

Health Editor, Oprah, basically any magazine you can think of as well as a bunch of

newspapers. So I really love health and

psychology research still a big part of my coaching practice and then for the

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