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This is Deep State Radio.

Coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement

of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to a special edition of the podcast.

As our listeners know, every so often when we find a great book that we think you should read,

we do a special show where we talk to the author of the book.

In this case, we are speaking to Jillian Ted, who's the editor at large,

of the Financial Times, who has written a new and fascinating book called

Enthrow Vision, how anthropology can explain business and life.

And we are also joined by Jillian's Financial Times colleague and our regular

friend Fred, friend Ed Luce, Hi Jillian, Hi Ed.

Hi, and I think David's your outnumbered by British accents today.

Yes, and it makes me feel inadequate.

I just want you to know that.

But there's probably an anthropological reason for that,

and that's why your book is so helpful.

I would say, in my reading of it, I felt it was kind of a useful exercise

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