Hey Better Babes. I'm Jonathan Van Ness and welcome to Getting Better. Today's episode is with a

connoisseur of culture, someone who is on the precipice of giving like the best advice, running

some of the best podcasts and doing the best columns in the game. She's blowing up on social.

I love her so much. She's none other than internet sensation, Teffi Pesoa. Teffi as a storyteller, pop culture historian, and host of the new podcast, Teffi Talks.

You may know her from TikTok or her monthly column, Ask Teffi with the Cut.

Her content is cutting, nuanced, and deeply researched, and she helped shed light on both the

importance and unimportance of pop culture.

We've talked pop culture with Matt Rogers, Drew Afalo, Matt XIV, and Honey, Teffi Pesoa's bringing the game to play.

So let's get into it. Taffy, Queen, thank you for coming on getting better. Thank you for having me.

So basically, I want to teach people. Well, I also want to learn. We all want to know how to navigate like this wild media landscape better. Like we want to know how to read through the lines, how to go deeper. When there's like an expose, we want to know how to read through it. You know what I'm saying? So, but also pop culture. Right. We just want to like navigate the world of pop culture better through your lens because really we feel we took a poll in our imaginations, but we feel this is really true in reality. No one's navigating pop culture like you are right now. Oh my God. Thank you so much. You are like and also let me just because I know you vultures are coming. I feel like everyone is about to like you're on the precipice of I think like you're already have accomplished so much. But I do feel that you are like you're giving me Carrie Strug vaulting down the runway, 96, except for you do not hurt your ankle.

No.

You land on both ankles because your ankle was fine. You secure the gold on your first vault, so it's not that big of a deal. Then you would have gone into all around and probably would have meddled because Carrie, this is what people don't know about Carrie Strug. You're too young for her, but. Like to be with her? Well, no, just like to know what I'm talking about generally.

There's like the 96th Atlantic Games like Well, no, just like to know what I'm talking about, generally.

It was like the 96th Atlantic Games, like, formative for you or, like, you were as I go.

I had the T-shirt. I have the T-shirt. Yeah. You were there. Wait, because were you alive for 96? Yeah, I was running in 1990. So you were six years old. I was six years old.

Do you remember The Magnificent Seven?

Of course I do.

I think what people don't really give Carrie's drug credit for is, first of all,

I did Google a picture of her and I saw her at their 2004 Republican National Convention introducing Dick Cheney, which made me really upset. Like I died a million deaths. Of all the people to introduce? Yeah. Also, and also, you know, who else was standing with her shoulder to shoulder? No. Mary Lou Retton Oh, who it makes her DUI a little bit more like, oh.

As I remind me, girl, a lot of people have T-I. Yes. D.I. Whatever. A lot of Republicans do have D-U-I. Yeah. That's how they get radicalized. Oh, it is? I think so. They like find that the... The DUI, the conservative pipeline?

Google it.

Every Republican I know or have heard of has a DUI. It's happened to my family a few times. So that makes sense. I'm DUI free, but I don't judge. But I just think that is who you are as like on. When it comes to like culture, you are the Carrie's drug that did not get injured,

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