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The Michael Steele Podcast

Make Mine a Double: SCOTUS Immunity Decision

The Michael Steele Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, Government, History, News

4.83.1K Ratings

🗓️ 3 July 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to Make Mine a Double, a segment where Michael responds to today's news and political crazy.

Michael discusses the recent SCOTUS decision to grant Trump immunity.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

So folks I had to take a pause. I could not.

0:09.0

So folks, I had to take a pause. I could not really get my thoughts or my head wrapped around the Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity.

0:25.0

Because I think it has profoundly shaken the foundations of our country.

0:38.8

Probably more. the foundations of our country, probably more so than anything we've seen so far.

0:55.0

Because what the Supreme Court did was to upend the very idea of America and to put in place an imperial presidency.

0:57.4

So let's take a step back. In April, the Supreme Court was asked by Donald Trump's lawyers to embrace a sweeping immunity argument,

1:12.3

asserting that a president sweeping immunity

1:15.0

while in office, and that this immunity

1:17.0

for official acts while in office,

1:20.0

and that this immunity applies after leaving office.

1:27.9

Special counsel Jack Smith argued

1:36.4

that only sitting presidents enjoy immunity from criminal prosecution.

1:40.0

And that any broad scope that Donald Trump and his lawyers were was proposing

1:47.6

would give a free pass to a president to commit criminal conduct without accountability.

1:59.0

So what happened?

2:00.0

Lower courts prior to the Supreme Court getting this case were largely

2:07.6

dismissive of what Donald Trump's lawyers were arguing. Judge Chuckin, US District Court Judge Tanya Chuckin,

2:18.4

when this matter was raised in the case before her noted, whatever, quote,

2:26.7

whatever immunities a sitting president may enjoy,

2:29.8

the United States has only one chief executive at a time.

2:34.2

And that position does not confer a lifelong

2:37.6

get out of jail free pass.

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