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Make Me Smart

Make Me Smart: Vermont Edition

Make Me Smart

Marketplace

Business, News

4.65.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2026

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

On today’s show, we’re taking a trip to the Green Mountain State for an up close look at one of Vermont’s most pressing economic issues: housing. Kimberly is joined by Carly Berlin, housing reporter for VTDigger and Vermont Public, to talk about the factors driving Vermont’s housing crisis and how solutions, like a catalog of pre-approved home designs, could help fix it. Plus, are you more of a Vermont cheddar or a Ben & Jerry’s type of person?


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Here we go.

0:04.0

Hello, everyone. I'm Kimberly Adams. Welcome back to Make Me Smart, where none of us is as smart as all of us.

0:17.0

Thank you for joining us, whether you're watching the YouTube live stream or listening to the podcast.

0:22.6

This is Economics on Tap, our weekly happy hour episode. Today, we are joining you live from

0:28.4

Burlington, Vermont, and joining me to tell me about all things. Vermont is Carly Berlin,

0:34.4

a housing reporter for VT Digger and Vermont Public. Welcome to the show, Carly.

0:39.8

Hey, Kimberly. And tell us where we are. We are at Zero Gravity Brewery in Burlington.

0:45.2

Okay, and what are we doing here? We are drinking some fine beverages. What do you have there?

0:51.9

I have a Green State Lager. Why do you call it a green state logger?

0:55.4

We're in the Green Mountain State.

0:57.4

This is my go-to beer here.

0:59.4

Let's see what everybody is drinking in the chat.

1:01.9

Oh, I should say, I am having a mom's Manhattan, which is their twist on a Manhattan

1:07.1

here.

1:07.8

And Jeff here, the owner was telling me that it's because during the pandemic,

1:11.9

moms needed Manhattan's. So, cheers. Cheers.

1:18.0

All right. It looks like Marty Ackerman is having a Kirkland sparkling water, nice and healthy and

1:24.2

refreshing. I love that for you. Allison is drinking fresh, squeezed, grapefruit juice,

1:29.4

cranberry juice, and sparkling water.

1:31.9

Oh, that's a good combo there.

1:33.8

It's refreshing.

1:34.4

Yeah.

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