This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce.

Thank you for joining us for Pantsuit Politics.

Welcome to this special episode of Pantsuit Politics created in partnership with the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and ACAST Creative.

We are here today with our beloved Jen Hatmaker to talk about her new podcast, Make Me Care About.

It can be so easy to feel discouraged by what we see in the news, but there is great work going on in really vital areas around the world.

Make Me Care About is a new show highlighting that work and we think you're going to love it.

So we invited our dear friend Jen here to talk to us more about it.

Jen Hatmaker, welcome back to Pantsuit Politics.

Oh my gosh, I missed you.

Likewise, how are you? What are you up to to tell us about your new show?

I like that. Let's just get to it. Let's just dance with this small talk.

We know we're not interested. Just tell us about the show.

No, she said tell us what you've been up to.

I said, how are you? It's a compound question.

I ranked my questions in order.

You're to be fair.

How are you? What are you up to?

And then tell us about the show.

You did say that.

That was a three-part question.

And I meant it.

Correct.

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