Welcome back to the A24 podcast. We recently brought together old friends in cinema royalty,

Isabella Rosalini and Willem Defoe, for a long distance Zoom conversation full of never

before revealed stories from their time working with David Lynch on movies like Wild at Heart

and Blue Velvet. We hope you enjoy the episode and catch Isabella Rosalini as the beloved Nana

Connie and Marcel the Shell was shoes on now in theaters. Hi, hi, I'm Isabella Rosalini.

Hi, I will I'm Willem Defoe or the other way around we are actors so you never know and this is

the podcast for A24. Hey, how are you? I'm fine in you. Good where are you? So I'm in New York.

I'm outside Rome. That's what I thought because I can see on Zoom the door behind you and I

said that's not America. No, it's in fact, in fact, it's an Indian door actually. So you could have

been in India, but I thought Italy. I could be in Italy, but India, but in Italy. And decidedly

Indian decor Rome, actually. Yeah. So do you speak Italian by now Willem? You do.

I speak Italian on Bane, and you're on your journey. See?

Really? Are you taking lessons or are you just speaking? A little bit, once a week I take a lesson,

but I read a little bit in the morning. Well, the Italian grammar is very complicated,

but if it's of any consolation, we Italian make many mistakes when we talk.

The verb is so difficult, so we make mistakes. I know. The verbs are killers. Yes, it's true.

Recently, I found out I can actually fight in Italian. You know, when I'm angry.

Very, very good. Sometimes I was saying big words in a different language. It allows you,

because sometimes when I say, well, we can't say it now because I don't know if it can be

censored or not. I'll go ahead. But if I say fuck in English, it doesn't resonate in me as strong

as it probably resonated to an American. So when I fight with, when I fought with my husband,

I often switched to I felt I was very violent in my language in English, but I couldn't have

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