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The LRB Podcast

Mailer’s Last Punch

The LRB Podcast

London Review of Books

Society & Culture

4.4581 Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2013

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Andrew O’Hagan remembers Norman Mailer. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to a London Review of Books podcast.

0:10.8

I walked through a heavy thicket of transvestites on province town's commercial street to get to Mailer's house at the other end of town.

0:19.1

You obviously quite like transvestites despite his image. The first time I

0:23.8

went to see him, he recommended I go to a bar that had a Judy Garland impersonator. When I got to his

0:30.3

house this second time, Norman was sitting at his dining table looking wiry and small. He walked with

0:37.3

two sticks and was six months from death. He was

0:41.1

reading the New York Times and circling things. He had on one of those armless fleecy wind cheaters

0:47.4

and a pair of ugg boots. When we sat down to talk, he told me to let him have it. Both barrels. I told him I was there

0:56.6

strictly on pussycat duty. The parish review loves you, I said, and so do I. But we get into a few

1:04.9

things all the same. In the evening, we headed off to Michael Shea's, a restaurant not far from Norman's house that

1:12.2

specialised in oysters. He liked to collect the shells. I have one here as I write. He drew on them

1:19.5

with a pen to reveal the faces of Greek gods in their crevices. Norman knew everybody in the

1:25.3

place and he asked for a kind of vodka punch.

1:28.3

He always drank horrible drinks.

1:30.3

At one point back at his house he asked me to make him a rum and grapefruit

1:35.3

and another time he asked for a red wine and orange juice.

1:39.3

When we sat down he said something nice about a book of mine.

1:42.3

It was a trick he got from Kennedy,

1:45.3

always praised the book by an author that other people find difficult.

1:49.6

I'll never win the Nobel Prize, you know, he said. Why are you so sure? Because I stabbed my

1:56.6

wife. Oh. No, they won't give it to me. He wanted to talk a lot about age and he told me I should

2:06.1

look after myself. You know, he said, when you get to my age, you have to pee a lot. There's no distance

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