Mailbag: Apologies, Genesis and Covid Church

Voxology

Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.7 • 1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 July 2020

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

How do we know when an apology is real? What does it mean to be the Church when buildings are closed? What if the Garden of Eden wasn't the whole world? This listener Q&A episode is packed with raw honesty, timely spiritual insight, and deep theological reflection. As Mike and Tim reflect on Bonnie’s new season outside the podcast and share personal moments from their marriages, they tackle the chaos of 2020—from political division to church stagnation—and respond to powerful listener questions about repentance, institutional complicity, and how Genesis might be telling a different story than we were taught.

This episode is rich with pastoral wisdom, cultural critique, and unvarnished vulnerability, offering much-needed space for disillusioned believers to wrestle with their faith, ask hard questions, and rediscover their longing for authenticity in Christian community.

Key Takeaways:
• Real Repentance and the Fruit of Change – Why true apology can’t be rushed or polished and how enduring fruit—not buzzwords—prove authenticity.
• The Problem with Image Management – Exploring the dangerous temptation to build public personas by weaponizing vulnerability.
• Church Reimagined in Crisis – How COVID-19 has exposed the American church’s obsession with Sunday services and the need for local, relational discipleship.
• Rediscovering Eden and Rethinking Genesis – What if Adam and Eve weren’t the only humans? Exploring new theological frameworks rooted in John Walton and John Sailhammer’s take on Genesis.
• Land, Covenant, and Redemption – Understanding the Bible’s story through the lens of land and people, where Eden is less a universal prototype and more the promised land of God’s chosen mission.

Resources Mentioned:
• Genesis Unbound by John Sailhammer – Amazon Link
• The Lost World Series by John Walton – IVP Link
• The Epic of Eden by Sandra Richter – Amazon Link
• Faith Improvised Podcast by Tim Gombis – Link
• Tim Schell Podcast with Bonnie – Link

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Transcript

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0:00.0	Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and the crowd.
0:12.3	And the crowd goes crazy.
0:14.4	Ladies and gentlemen, welcome.
0:18.1	Welcome to the Vox podcast.
0:20.2	It is Mike Tim and, oh, it's just Mike and Tim.
0:25.8	Where are we going?
0:28.9	We have, today we have a Bonnie-shaped hole in our hearts and in our podcast.
0:36.6	Bonnie's podcast, Tim Shell, has, and Gombus's podcast, Faith Improvised, will be launching.
0:45.9	Yeah.
0:46.1	And so, obviously, we're excited and thrilled.
0:51.7	And we realize, you know, for some of you, that's a hard, that's a hard thing
0:56.1	to lose, Bonnie. It is for us, too. She's very unique to have a female voice, to have a different
1:02.5	theological voice. You know, it's, it's a big deal. It's a big loss. And so we, Tim and I have done and are,
1:13.1	we have a little team with us. We've done a lot of thinking and a lot of talking. And,
1:18.4	and I'll admit, I've prayed, I've prayed a little bit about kind of what this next season
1:25.8	of the podcast should look like, because Bonnie is not easily replaceable,
1:30.2	nor do we just want to run out and find, you know,
1:32.9	somebody right away.
1:34.6	So next episode,
1:36.6	we will have some thoughts about what the next season of the podcast is going to look like.
1:42.6	Tim's growing his hair out.
1:44.9	So in,
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