Mahooty, Steeves, Sixkiller-Clark: Star People, Sky Beings, and Indigenous Cosmology
Earth Ancients
Cliff Dunning
4.6 • 2.9K Ratings
🗓️ 14 March 2026
⏱️ 120 minutes
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Summary
- Clifford Mahooty — Zuni Pueblo elder, retired civil/environmental engineer, and wisdom keeper active in Zuni religious orders including the Kachina and Galaxy Medicine Society. On Earth Ancients he discusses Zuni oral history, ritual life, kachinas, and connections to star people.
- Dr. Ardy Sixkiller Clarke — Professor Emeritus at Montana State University who devoted her career to Indigenous populations and published work on Native accounts of “Star People.” Earth Ancients presents her as a noted American Indian researcher whose interviews collected first-person Indigenous narratives.
- Dr. Paulette Steeves
Cree-Métis archaeologist and professor (Algoma University). Author of The Indigenous Paleolithic of the Americas. Her research argues Indigenous presence in the Americas extends far earlier than mainstream archaeology recognizes.
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| 0:00.0 | We've been talking so much about the ruins of Guatemala and Yucatan Mexico and Central Mexico and places like that that we've been visiting on tour. |
| 0:33.2 | And I've had a great sense of it myself. |
| 0:37.1 | Working with archaeologists and working on my own theories of the age of the great various people of Mesoamerica. |
| 0:45.1 | To the point where I've kind of missed my friends. |
| 0:48.4 | You know, we've lost so many people. |
| 0:50.3 | We lost Clifford Mojoulli, Carlos Barreros. |
| 0:55.2 | They both succumbed to COVID. |
| 1:00.9 | And it was terrible. |
| 1:04.3 | We had people that were very, very outspoken about native traditions and teachers that passed away. |
| 1:15.3 | And so I'm kind of feeling right now, and we haven't, you know, we used to have Clifford Mahody, |
| 1:20.8 | my Zuni friend, on quite regularly, and he would come and do the tours, |
| 1:31.1 | and he would also do conferences here in California or different parts of the United States. So he is presenting this information and handing |
| 1:37.0 | it down. So I felt the need to put together a program with some of the better known and insightful indigenous people. |
| 1:49.2 | We're going to have Clifford Mahoudi on today, as well as Dr. Paulette Steves, who's the |
| 1:54.8 | anthropologist from Canada. And I even have some pre-recordings from R. Six Killer Clark who wrote very, very detailed books on sky people and star people and their influence. |
| 2:10.2 | Now, one of the things that came up a few years ago that I thought was quite interesting is the belief and the sacred geometry around alignments, |
| 2:23.7 | complete city alignments that the indigenous people felt were necessary. |
| 2:31.2 | And they built these alignments into their architecture, as well as their |
| 2:38.3 | layout. |
| 2:39.9 | And a few years ago, a Canadian student using various celestial maps, star maps, aligned a city |
| 2:50.6 | in Yucatan with a known cosmology, |
| 2:55.6 | a celestial constellation. |
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