Mahmoud v. Taylor

5-4

Prologue Projects

News Commentary, News, Government

4.6 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 July 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Because the conservatives on the Supreme Court are lowkey homophobic, they have made it easier for parents of kids in public schools to opt out of topics that make them uncomfortable. LGBTQ books, no thank you— evolution, not for my kids.

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0:00.0	We will hear argument first this morning in case 24-297, Mahmood v. Taylor.
0:09.6	Hey, everyone. This is Leon from Prologue Projects.
0:13.1	On this episode of 5 to 4, Peter, Riannon, and Michael are talking about Mahmoud v. Taylor,
0:19.3	a recent case ostensibly about the free exercise of religion
0:22.5	for parents of students in public school. In 2022, the Montgomery County Public Schools in Maryland
0:28.3	approved LGBTQ inclusive books for its K-35 English curriculum. Three families sued the school
0:35.8	district, arguing that requiring their children to read books with LGBTQ themes
0:40.4	contradicted their religious beliefs, and that the school district had violated their right to religious freedom.
0:46.7	The Supreme Court ruled in the family's favor, stating that the school district infringed on their free exercise of religion by requiring participation
0:54.2	in a curriculum that conflicted with their beliefs.
0:57.1	It's another example of the courts using religion to hide bigotry.
1:02.2	We can't hide our children away from the reality of the people in the community that exists today,
1:08.3	especially marginalized communities.
1:10.1	This is 5 to 4, a podcast about how much the Supreme Court sucks.
1:17.3	Welcome to 5 to 4, where we dissect and analyze the Supreme Court cases that have shredded
1:22.6	our civil liberties like Donald Trump shredding the Epstein files.
1:26.8	I'm Peter. I'm here with Riannon. Hey.
1:30.4	And Michael. Look, the man has to cover up his crimes. He's got things to do. There's shredding to be done.
1:36.7	Yes. Yeah. It's so important to cover up your crimes. It's high on the to do list right now. He's got a
1:42.9	little star next to it, you know?
1:45.1	Yes.
1:46.1	Underline.
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