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The Journal.

MAHA Influencers Go to Washington

The Journal.

The Wall Street Journal

Daily News, Business News, News

4.25.3K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2025

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Last week, President Donald Trump nominated Dr. Casey Means to be surgeon general. Means is a wellness influencer and, along with her brother, a prominent advocate for Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s “Make America Healthy Again” movement. WSJ’s Kristina Peterson reports on how Means’s nomination makes her the latest figure from the lightly regulated wellness industry who has been elevated by Kennedy. Jessica Mendoza hosts.     Further Listening:  - The Fight to Kick Soda Out of Food Stamps  - The Fight Over Fluoride  Sign up for WSJ’s free What’s News newsletter.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

What's up? Nice to meet you guys.

0:09.2

Thanks for coming here.

0:11.3

I'm all happy, but this is not a happy subject. I don't know.

0:15.4

Back in October, podcaster Joe Rogan featured a brother and sister duo on a show.

0:21.8

People want to be healthy.

0:23.5

There's a huge system rate against them.

0:27.1

Casey and Callie means are big in the wellness space.

0:29.6

Casey, the sister, is a medical doctor.

0:32.6

The brother, Callie, is a former food lobbyist.

0:35.4

They each co-founded startups related to health.

0:37.3

People know that something's not right. And people know that this health issue is the tip of the

0:41.3

iceberg.

0:43.2

Casey Means is one of the more influential figures in the Make America Healthy Again movement.

0:50.1

That's our colleague Christina Peterson. She's been covering the Maha movement closely.

0:54.6

She kind of came to prominence last year when she and her brother wrote this book called

1:00.3

Good Energy that is sort of examining the root causes for why America is not as healthy

1:08.5

as it should be.

1:10.7

Last week, President Trump nominated Casey means to be surgeon-rescent is not as healthy as it should be.

1:16.9

Last week, President Trump nominated Casey Means to be Surgeon General, a powerful role inside Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s Department of Health and Human Services.

1:23.1

Means nomination has put her in the national spotlight, making her the latest and now most

1:28.6

prominent Maha influencer elevated by Kennedy's political rise.

1:35.2

The rise of RFK, he's now the nation's most powerful public health official, has created

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